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Interview with Shri Muniraji

December 31, 2007

Interview with Shri Muniraj - by Ramloti in India, January
2001

Ramloti Muniraj, when did you meet Babaji?
Shri Muniraj (Muniraj, as interpreted by Gauradevi.) The
first time I saw Babaji, I met Him in the Kathgaria Ashram,
close to Haldwani. Yet, I knew of Babaji before, when I was
in the hospital and had to undergo an operation in 1960.
Then Babaji gave darshan to me in the hospital. Then Babaji
pulled me to Haidakhan in 1971.

RL And was that the first time you went to Haidakhan and
what was your experience?
M Yes, it was my first time there and it was wonderful. I
had the feeling that I had been in Haidakhan before--I knew
the place from before, that was the feeling.

RL When Babaji appeared to you in the hospital, did you
know he was your Guru?
M That time I was in the hospital, I did not realize that
it was Babaji that appeared to me. But when I met Babaji in
the physical body, I realized that it was the same Being
whom I had met before in the hospital, the night before the
operation.

RL Can you give me a very strong experience you had with
Babaji?
M After I met Babaji, I had different visions of Him, like
seeing different forms of the Divine and like seeing His
form change. The strongest feeling I had was the feeling of
having been with Babaji probably for many lifetimes. I felt
this connection, the feeling of this old, ancient
connection.

RL And why do you think Baba came into manifestation this
last time?
M One of the main things is that He taught people to
repeat the OM NAMAH SHIVAYA mantra, and now this mantra is
spread all over the earth. And then He taught people to
live in Truth, Simplicity and Love, and to lead their lives
according to these principles. Also He told people that in
this yuga, this time, the highest form of yoga is karma
yoga.

RL And how do you see people doing after Babaji left his
body?
M I don’t have any feeling that Babaji is gone. There is
no AFTER Babaji to me.
And all the centers and ashrams running all over the world
nowadays, they are all running because of Babaji’s
inspiration.

RL And even when the ashrams have difficult times, still,
they should keep running and doing their work?
M It is normal to have difficulties, always difficulties
come and difficulties go. The difficulties make us
stronger; they always teach us something.

RL What advice would you give people?
M People should go on according to the teachings that they
got from Babaji, and the main teaching is karma yoga. And
also, one of the main principles of Babaji is to be human.
Also, He never taught us to quit our religion. He always
taught us that every religion has the same value. When
people really love Babaji and really have this connection
with Him, they can never really have difficulties or
problems. When they have devotion and love for Babaji, they
can never be really in trouble. All the new people who are
coming now, Baba keeps giving them strong experiences.

RL Why did Babaji leave you in this role?
M This I don’t know. I am trying my best to do the duty
that Babaji has given me, and what ever is going on, what
ever is happening, is always because of Baba’s constant
inspiration.

RL Muniraj, you do your particular spiritual practice
every morning and evening: puja, fire ceremony, aarati,
japa, meditation; is this a very important way to stay in
close connection with Babaji?
M Yes, because whichever practice you do, this is creating
a link with the divine.

RL There are new people who come to the Ashram who don’t
have a spiritual practice, and want to learn one. They are
coming to aarati and doing karma yoga, what else would you
recommend?
M In the beginning, just teach them in a simple way: japa
(repetition of the name), meditation, spiritual reading.

RL You also read the Sapta Sati every morning and evening,
is this a good thing?
M Yes, it is for Goddess. You know, each practice
corresponds to a spiritual stage, so whichever practice you
do, this creates a certain spiritual stage in your life.
Reading the Sapta Sati is to create a connection with the
Divine Mother.